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Old Jan 24, 2007, 12:11 AM // 00:11   #21
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Problem is for eles, there are healers that need to be killed which can be difficult with a random killing skill such as Sliver Armour. Also, once you kill the rangers, you wont have QZ any more...

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Well, you could be an E/R and either bring your own QZ or use Serpent's Quickness.
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 01:21 AM // 01:21   #22
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Then you can easily farm the rest
The only things a Sin cant solo are the touchers.
So the veil maybe cant be done, but if u inflict posion+bleed+deep wound and run away
until they die, u still can do it.
Touch skills ignore armor and shadow form, so can be hard.
[skill]Mystic Twister[/skill]
The margonite dervishes have this, and it deals about 200 damage. Margonites invest the entire city and part of the foundry.
[skill]Chilblains[/skill]
The titans later in the foundry have this. Guess what, it strips shadow form.

The ravenheart gloom however....
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23   #23
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Yes, probaly a sin, use the same old tombs build.
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 02:05 AM // 02:05   #24
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Some uber leet paragon solo build will come out, and I will kick my own ass for deleting him.


(This is a joke-Kcus Snogarap- decode that one lol)
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 02:25 AM // 02:25   #25
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Well, I tried running this build in Ravenheart Gloom:
[skill]Obsidian Flesh[/skill][skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill][skill]Armor of Earth[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill][skill]Quickening Zephyr[/skill][skill]Glyph of Concentration[/skill][skill]Serpent's Quickness[/skill][skill]Troll Unguent[/skill]

It works pretty well for about 5 seconds. However, it has some energy management issues and not enough healing to counter all the degen. Any ideas?
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 02:31 AM // 02:31   #26
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@ Senrath: Stone Striker+Storm Chaser will keep your energy full if you juggle with Serpent's+Obsid Flesh. You could try and witch out glyph of concentration with glyph of resto, 100+ heal every 8 sec, though timing against interrupts will be hard......
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 03:45 AM // 03:45   #27
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[skill]Mystic Twister[/skill]
The margonite dervishes have this, and it deals about 200 damage. Margonites invest the entire city and part of the foundry.
[skill]Chilblains[/skill]
The titans later in the foundry have this. Guess what, it strips shadow form.

The ravenheart gloom however....
Margonite's spell fails with shadow form on, and SF cant be stripped.
All spells, hex, attacks fails when shadow form is on, but touch skills.
Monster-only skills included (like finger of chaos).
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 03:52 AM // 03:52   #28
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You might want to check Guild Wiki before you answer anything..

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Shadow_Form

Chillblains indirectly targets Shadow Form and removes it.
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 03:53 AM // 03:53   #29
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Chilibians can strip Shadow Form.

edit: And since someone already beat me to that... I'm not sure if the Tombs build can out dmg the monks since the weekend is over and blades of steel is back to normal.
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 03:56 AM // 03:56   #30
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actually chilbains strips sf cause its aoe

Edit:heheh two ppl beat me to it
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 03:59 AM // 03:59   #31
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And Mystic Twister will hit you, too.
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 04:03 AM // 04:03   #32
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...SF cant be stripped.
Incorrect. Notice that Chilblains does not need to target in order to strip an enchantment. Also notice that Shadow Form says that you can not be targeted. Since you're not being targeted, Chilblains still has it's full effect. GG SF.
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 04:58 AM // 04:58   #33
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what about this for a basic monk farming engine, minus the damage:
Prot Spirit
Mystic Regeneration
Spell Breaker
XXXXXX
XXXXXX
XXXXXX
Balthazars Spirit
Essence Bond
Blessed Aura

the only problem i have so far is damage. All my usual favorites (IW, SoJ, VwK because of how i can 55 with just that and prot spirit, which is fun xD) because the elite slot is taken. A Mo/X build would look like this:

Prot Spirit
SoA
Spell Breaker
XXXXXX
XXXXXX
[regen skill if open]
Balthazars Spirit
Essence Bond
Blessed Aura

So the only problem i run into is damage, and i hesitate to use AV/SV like that one guy did, because a lot of the people who tested it said it didnt work.

Another idea I had was for a ranger partner to bring Quicksand, which is -1 energy for every spell or attack, so it works like a lesser AV/SV, which have AoE effects, and still use famine.
What I think would be really sweet though would be for someone to solo all those Stygian Hungers, because they r so easily accessible. Could u snare, then nuke them down quick enough maybe?
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 05:52 AM // 05:52   #34
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LOl,no a/me tombs build wont work, the enviromental affect in gloom stuffs it up, but i do use a build to kill around 10-20monster in gloom.
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 07:16 AM // 07:16   #35
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naw stygian is soloable with the tombs build. The Shadow Army part atleast. BUt the touchers are d big problem. Seeing as how it goes thru sf and dey can spam an 80+damge touch.. well I kept dieng lol
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 08:48 AM // 08:48   #36
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i already can, i might post a guide later if u are nice
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 10:31 AM // 10:31   #37
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stygian can be soloed by a ranger or a necro... takes a god damn while though... got bored so i quit

as for 4 Ravenheart Gloom i used to solo the wide area with my ele but i didnt like the drop rate... farming somewhere else for cash is faster than getting those gemstones

id rather do smiteruns rather than soloing those areas because its faster

its even faster to get $$$ if u farm somewhere else but im not farming for $$$ but for the challenge ^^

there's a 2-man guide for The Foundry of Failed Creations and the city somewhere in these threads if ur interested
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 02:59 PM // 14:59   #38
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how do rangers solo it?
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 08:04 PM // 20:04   #39
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how do rangers solo it?
My guess would be traps.
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 09:32 PM // 21:32   #40
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DoA will never be soloable. Anyone can use Shadow Form to degen off some random enemies. Its so slow its not worth it. Killing off Torment mobs including a Blessed Light healer will take ages. Stygian Hungers wouldn't even be possible. City you'd be out of energy instantly. Gloom you'd never get a chain of attacks. Foundry... just no.

Personally before someone has a miracle claim that they've 'soloed' Stygian Veil i want it to involve doing at least part of the first quest. Killing those Shadows can be done by any Shadow Former.

Semi-solo is good enough for me. The drops are the same, the exp is the same.
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